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Some extracts of NUFC statements

9th May 2010

The Board have therefore structured a five year plan in which the ultimate goal will be to ensure that the club is run at a 'break even' manner by the year 2015/2016."

"The days when players such as Alan Shearer, Steve Bruce, Peter Beardsley and Michael Carrick had to leave Newcastle to begin their illustrious football careers elsewhere are over. Newcastle United is more than aware of the great passion for the game of football that exists locally and is intent on ensuring that every great Geordie footballer has the opportunity to play for his home team club."

"Chris Hughton is the Manager of Newcastle United Football Club and has a contract in place until the end of the 2010/2011 season."

11th May 2010

In relation to recent media speculation following the statement made by the Club on May 9, Newcastle United would like to make it clear that owner Mike Ashley is not looking for his interest free loan to be repaid, or to take any money out of the Club"

28th October 2010

Chris is our manager and will remain our manager, and it is our intention to re-negotiate his contract at the end of the year,'

6th December 2010

Regrettably, the board now feels that an individual with more managerial experience is needed to take the club forward".

9th December 2010 (Pardew)

The number nine shirt here is legendary and he has shown the fans that he is big enough and good enough to wear it. It will be a massive, massive blow if he left so it's very important that he stays. Derek assured me that he will.'

12th December (Pardew)

I have had reassurances about that, 100%. He is staying here."

16th January (Pardew)

They can bid whatever they like. He is not for sale."

20th January 2011 (Pardew)

He's not going to Spurs. He's not going anywhere"

29th January 2011

high-ranking club official has been quoted by Sky Sports News as saying: 'The club would like to make it clear for the very last time that Carroll is simply not for sale.'

31st January 2011 (Club web site)

Andy Caroll has completed his switch to Liverpool for an undisclosed fee."



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1st February 2011 03:09 PM
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(1st February 2011 03:09 PM)liam1708 Wrote: Guests cannot see links in the messages. Please register to forum by clicking here to see links.In relation to recent media speculation following the statement made by the Club on May 9, Newcastle United would like to make it clear that owner Mike Ashley is not looking for his interest free loan to be repaid, or to take any money out of the Club"

Well if this true then;

a) it means we'll never be sold, because there's £140m owed to Ashley and a new owner won't pay for that after purchasing the club for whatever Ashley is asking for.

b) it also means that the £35m is to be used for transfers.

I don't know if I want it to be true or not. Sad
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Where are the inserts when Carroll says he never wants to leave.... or have they just been selectively missed out.
1st February 2011 05:16 PM
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probably a nice 1-2 to the toon
1st February 2011 05:18 PM
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150 MILLION WOULD BE ENOUGH TO TAKE THE CLUB FROM FATCUNT.
there's a rich arab round the corner ready to buy the club.




















































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£150m would not be enough.

£150m would be the sale price...they'd then have to pay Ashleys loan...which will be anywhere between £100m-£140m depending on how much he's already taken back.
That's why we're stuck with him for now.

The quicker he gets his money, the quicker he fucks off.
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ive just telt yi man ffs. 150 million will be enough.Urgay
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Sure.
1st February 2011 07:32 PM
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So how much will he have raked in to pay off the debts to himself. i remember a while back that cunt lambiarse said the next owner of NUFC will be buying a club that is debt free, that is more or less exactly what he said when they were trying to sell the club, but now all of a sudden we are £140m in fucking debt.
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When Llambias said the next owner would be debt free, he is part right, part wrong.

Our only debt is Ashley. That HAS to be paid back when the ownership is changed. So when a new owner comes in, he HAS to pay Ashley off...therefore the new owner will have no debt. Llambias just worded it to make it look better.

And it's not "all of a sudden Rotti" - it's been there for ages now...

No idea yet how much he has taken back against the loan...probably not that much...unless the £35m is against it aswell.
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So he was lying when he said the debts would be clear for the next owner, those are his words m8. What part of the next owner of NUFC will inherit a club that is debt free not debt free, but you will still need to pay fatty £140m.
1st February 2011 07:42 PM
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He is lying yeah. Surprise surprise.

Or at least, he's putting a massive spin on the truth..

If a buyer approaches Ashley, saying he'll offer £150m for the club, Ashley would say fine, but then you have to give me £140m. So the new owner, to buy the club will pay £290m. But the club will then be debt free under the new owner...so in a sense Llambias is right.

Also, I think, by the time Ashley sells, he will have taken all of his money back - so yeah, the club could well be debt free at that stage...but what Llambias says, makes it sound like a new owner buying the club at this minute would have no debt, and that is obviously wrong.

This loan to Ashley may sound bad Rotti - but we're far better off owing Ashley £140m, than owing banks/other clubs etc £140m.
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Agreed m8 but all the same hew didnt say you will still owe what mike is due all he said was the new owners of NUFC will be buying a club that is debt free unless ive got it wrong, but i dont think i have because at the time i thought we will definitely be sold as we are debt free.
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(1st February 2011 07:54 PM)rotti Wrote: Guests cannot see links in the messages. Please register to forum by clicking here to see links.because at the time i thought we will definitely be sold as we are debt free.

That's what he wanted people to think. It sounds a lot better than the truth. Wink

I keep saying on here that we're 'debt free'. We aren't really. We owe Ashley because Ashley paid off all the debts.

But because of this, we now have nobody chasing us, no charges and no interest. Although we're in debt to Ashley, I still say we're 'debt free', because we are in a position of no danger. The finances are secure.

To be fair to Llambias (if that's allowed) - what he says could well be right - by the time Ashley sells, the loan could be paid and the club would be debt free. But you're right, that isn't the impression he gives with his quote.
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That Fella Rexn reckons he'll have all his money back by now, and that bloke knows his stuff concerning nufc finances.
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How does he figure that out like?

Where have we made £140m?
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(1st February 2011 08:03 PM)Silent Bob Wrote: Guests cannot see links in the messages. Please register to forum by clicking here to see links.That Fella Rexn reckons he'll have all his money back by now, and that bloke knows his stuff concerning nufc finances.

Didnt know that m8
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(1st February 2011 08:05 PM)richyNUFC Wrote: Guests cannot see links in the messages. Please register to forum by clicking here to see links.How does he figure that out like?

Where have we made £140m?

By going through accounts and stuffs.

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(1st February 2011 08:03 PM)Silent Bob Wrote: Guests cannot see links in the messages. Please register to forum by clicking here to see links.That Fella Rexn reckons he'll have all his money back by now, and that bloke knows his stuff concerning nufc finances.

Didnt know that m8

aye he's been saying summit like this for a while now.

he does his homework anarl.
1st February 2011 08:24 PM
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In June 2009, before fizzy pop season even began, we owed £111m to Ashley.

During the relegation season he put more in to cover the cost of running the club. The loan was estimated to now be anywhere between and £120m-£140m at 30th June 2010.*

Even if the £35m from Carroll is going towards paying off the loan, where has the rest of it come from, in just 6 months?

*these accounts aren't published yet, so nobody knows the full figure at this point.
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But what about all the money he received from the parachute payments and all the money he has saved on players wages thats where the money will have been saved.
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(1st February 2011 08:06 PM)rotti Wrote: Guests cannot see links in the messages. Please register to forum by clicking here to see links.
(1st February 2011 08:03 PM)Silent Bob Wrote: Guests cannot see links in the messages. Please register to forum by clicking here to see links.That Fella Rexn reckons he'll have all his money back by now, and that bloke knows his stuff concerning nufc finances.

Didnt know that m8

No chance at all.

He was still owed 110mil at the end of June 2009. We have since lost £25mil after a year in the fizzy pop.

We will turn a profit of £50mil ish for the year ended 30 June 2011, that will be the first time we have actually made money in a long long time.
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We still have a canny wage bill Rotti, plus we've made a couple of transfers without (until Carroll) selling anyone of any significance. (since these 09 accounts)

There will be a profit this year to take against his loan, aye, but he'll be doing that slowly, month by month, and it won't be a quick thing.

Bob - is this the same Rexn that says this?: "The owner on the other hand will see a profit this year, already projected to be in the region of £15-20 million, now boosted by a further £35m plus add ons. Around half of his loans to the club can be repaid should he so choose."

He says just over half could be repaid - not all of the loan.

Also, £55m is around half of £111m - so he isn't taking into account the additions to the loan made up until June 2010. The loan could be about £140m at that stage. We'll know whenever those accounts are published.
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I am trying to find the link to a site I found a couple of months ago: I did post it on here, and will do again. It was to a site run by a guy who works for a swiss merchant bank that specialises in sports finance.

We are debt free: essentially what happened was that MA bought the club for £130 mill, but put a further £140 mill in to clear the debts. This means that he in effect bought the club for £270 mill: so, whatever he sells it for, its debt free.

The level of hidden costs are what caught him out: the fact that the club still owed money on players that had since been sold, the fact that Shepherd had already spent the Northern Rock money before it was earned, etc., but that is now sorted. There are no formal arrangements to pay Ashley back "the loan", as it is secured against a future sale of the club. The club will trade at a profir for the first time this year: from memory its expected to turn in about £10 million.

And fatty can sell whenever he likes, at whatever price he likes. This is the argument for a boycott essentially: that because there is no debt, by severely reducing the income through people not buying tickets, shirts, etc, the club represents a millstone for Ashley. If he felt that it was worth taking say £150 mill just to reduce his exposure, he could. He would walk away with a £120 mill loss, but staying would just risk his investment entirely! Its powerful, but I dont want to start a debate on that again.

I make no bones about it: Ashley has been a disgrace in many ways for this club. The Wise / Keegan / Kinnear debacle will forever blacken his name with ALL fans of this club, and has reduced us to a comic turn. But I also have no doubt that we are only in continued existence, right now, because of him. His restructuring is absolute and timely. We are not exposed in the way that most other clubs are. I take your point Rotti about Liverpools owners spending more with half the money, but its that kind motgaging the future that endangers them. Man Utd are paying colossal amounts of interest on nearly a billion pounds of debt. The smallest downturn in football finances will do for them. Chelsea are at risk the minute the Russian falls out of lkove with them.

I dont know when he will sell, but I am convinced that we have a sound FINANCIALfuture due solely to his efforts. Its incredibly frustrating right now, but he is doing the right thing. I am hugely disappointed with AC going, but it doesnt make us a selling club. £35 million is crazy money, and whatever the truh about it, Ashley didnt sell until it hit that level. He genuinely wasnt going to sell him: I remember a number of posters on here last week thinking the Spurs offers would be good business. But it was too good to be true. Thats why I blame Carroll: Ashley played it like a businessman, we all thought Carroll would play it like someone who loves this club.

Who is the disappointment now?
1st February 2011 08:34 PM
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I agree whole heartedly with all of that Pete.....apart from the bit about being hugely dissapointed with Carroll going

star striker??....talisman number 9??......he never was in my eyes and I'm not really arsed he's gone





cracking post though
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Thing is m8 as ive said umpteen times Ashley held the cards Carroll was under contract if he really didnt want to sell, he didnt have to but all the same £35m for a player that was really only worth at max £20m the club got a cracking deal.
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hehehe...Lundy love Ashley, Lundy loves Ashley...Lundy and Ashley sitting in a tree...

I kid, of course. As Mac says, cracking post. But you must now accept that you love Ashley. Jason says so.
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(1st February 2011 08:47 PM)richyNUFC Wrote: Guests cannot see links in the messages. Please register to forum by clicking here to see links.hehehe...Lundy love Ashley, Lundy loves Ashley...Lundy and Ashley sitting in a tree...

I kid, of course. As Mac says, cracking post. But you must now accept that you love Ashley. Jason says so.

I respect certain things about his work with us, yes.

But he is undoubtedly a cunt, and I will never forgive him for some of the things he has done. It is true that he lacks a love for the club we want to see in our owners, our players....

But my central point remains the same: Carroll held the cards. Ashey knew he couldnt be seen to sell AC, and so wasnt going to. Its Carroll who played the game with the club he loves. And it was Carroll, through Wraith who started the name calling. We could have held him to his contract, Rotti? We did , didnt we? He signed to play for us for x years at £x per week.And we were holding to it. He put in the request, and at that point that business was too good to say no to.

Ashley is a cunt for reasons we all know. And now we have seen that Carroll is too.
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and money from Sky for this season. then all the payments for players sold? and the amount we've saved on wages.
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but has it been to the detriment of the team Bob?
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Quote:Carroll held the cards

How the hell did Carroll hold the cards, he was under contract and there was nothing he or his agent could have done to wriggle out of it. i think Ashley would have got some credit from the fans if the fat cunt had knocked back £35m, but he didnt did he.
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