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What would he possibly be able to do?

Well, my thoughts are this;

Jose has sent out his plea to the Premiership by saying he doesn't like Italian football and misses English football.

Right Mike you're not short of a bob or two, you said you wanted to enjoy owning a football club and have some fun when you took us over - well so far can't have been much fun for you.

So, if you trully want to have fun and get back in favour with the fans, go and do your best sales job on Jose, get him here and give him a blank cheque book.

You can do it Mike, go on son.
1st April 2010 08:25 AM
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No chance. Smile
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What's wrong with Hughton like?

Better record than Keegan in this division. Fact.
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Yawn
1st April 2010 09:13 AM
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KK finished on 96 points and at this same stage had 81, so Hughton is on course to have more points, but hasn't done it yet, so therefore not a fact as you put it.

Also the football played under KK was far superior in a league that had better teams than the current season.

Still you prefer Hughton I and about 99.9% of NUFC fans prefer KK, I wonder who is right??

If Hughton challenges for Europe next season then the title within 3 years I'll give you it.Wink
1st April 2010 09:18 AM
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To be fair to Hughton, even Keegan wouldn't be able to be challenging for Europe and the title in our current situation.

That's why he gave up.
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Pointless comparison.

If there was even a glimmer of hope of getting Jose then great.

As there isnt, Hughton will do untill he proves he cant do it, or we have the opportunity to bring in someone worthy.
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Sal Wrote:or we have the opportunity to bring in someone worthy.

Is Hughton not worthy of the job?
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Chris_NUFC Wrote:Is Hughton not worthy of the job?

Of course he is, I mean worthy enough to replace him.

Ala Mourinho!
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I bet if he had an exotic name like Roberto Di Matteo or Paolo Sousa people wouldn't be so scepticle about Hughton.

Hughton earnt his chance. Just like Keegan.
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It's cause he's black.
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Sal Wrote:Of course he is, I mean worthy enough to replace him.

Ala Mourinho!


I am not having a go, its just that i read that Hughton deserves a shot, i do not have a problem with that, but if a decent manager was up for grabs how many on here would change the manager?

So what about say Roy Hodgson from Fulham, would you get rid of Hughton for him?
1st April 2010 09:41 AM
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I don't think it's right to.

We don't want to disrupt any of the harmony within the squad. They all seem to love playing for Chris.
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I'd keep Hughton ahead of Hodgson.

I think he deserves a go. How many times have we heard the phrase "proven manager" - they're only proven because they were lucky enough to be given the chance in the first place! These managers will never become "proven" if they keep getting replaced.

Top quality managers, like Billy Davies for example, get a reputation of being "Championship" bosses, because he couldn't keep Derby in the PL...even Mourinho would've struggled to keep that side in the PL.

I reckon the likes of Davies would do well at a side like Wolves/Wigan/Bolton - a side that has just managed to stay in the PL - he could come in and take them on a little bit further, season by season, but he's not been given the chance because of that season with Derby.
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People still want Hollywood signings/managers.

Hughton has done his job and done it well.
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And I never understand the need for a new manager for a higher division. Players are rightly judged on the division they play in, and when promoted you either need the players to improve or new players to be signed.

But when a manager gets promoted, they just have to keep doing the same things.

Whereas the players in a side that get promoted may not be good enough for the next level, any manager that gets a team promoted must be quite a good manager.
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An example is Mick McCarthy, did a brilliant job in international management, went to the mackems, did well to get them promoted but then he was given a small bugdet for the PL and took them down on a then record lowest points and his reputation was pretty much ruined.

He then took over Wolves and I think at the time he only had 15 playing staff or something and in a few years he's managed to get them promoted and this time keep them up. (Probably)

Still not got the greatest reputation, butI think he's done a brilliant job.
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Well it is kind of immaterial anyway, Hughton will be our manager next season in the Premier League, so i hope he proves me wrong.

Hodgson has had international experience, managed in a foreign League at a top club, and done a great job at Fulham.They play tonight in the quarters of the Europa league, after knocking out Juve.I would take him.
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Hodgson is a good manager yes, but I still feel Hughton can do a good job aswell.

Like I said, these managers will never become proven if they don't get the chance.
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richyNUFC Wrote:It's cause he's black.

Eek
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I understand the sceptisism entirely.

Last season, and even the start of this one, Hughton was portrayed and seemed content with being portrayed as a yes man. Another puppet prepared to put up with any sort of shit to stay in a job - Be it caretaker, coach or tealady.

That perception in hindsight, may not have been his fault at all. His natural persona is that of a quiet private sort of guy, and all the chaos of last season could have you draw any number of conclusions about him.

This season however, his stance hasnt changed at all, yet we have seen a team gel together and grow with confidence game on game. The home performances since the new year have been fantastic, and the January buys have almost all been perfect for the purpose.

I know its easy to see a team full of spirit every week when you are always winning, but fucking hell we have lost once since October and are still unbeaten at home.

We have had a player banged up and a well publicised scrap between our own players. Factor in Joey Barton just being present, plus the FCB & his mate looming over him like a great blanket of shyte and certainly dont forget the fact that Shearers name has probably been sung from the terraces far more often than his own. All the while Hughton has remained dignified and refused to play ball with the press while continuing on with his only remit - Promotion.
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I know any appointment is a risk and Hodgson could easily fail at NUFC, but i would rather go into the Premier with a been there and done it manager.We cannot afford to be relegated again, it will totally fuck us up.

That is just my opinion, i can see both sides of the argument.
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I bet if Shearer had managed us this season and got us promoted, there wouldn't be many people clamouring for him to be pushed aside for a more experienced manager
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McCreery Wrote:I bet if Shearer had managed us this season and got us promoted, there wouldn't be many people clamouring for him to be pushed aside for a more experienced manager

Exactly.

The truth is that no one knows how Hughton will fair next season.

Last season is no basis at all to judge the bloke on.

Who knows, he may be the next messiah Wink
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McCreery Wrote:I bet if Shearer had managed us this season and got us promoted, there wouldn't be many people clamouring for him to be pushed aside for a more experienced manager


Sal Wrote:Exactly.

The truth is that no one knows how Hughton will fair next season.

Last season is no basis at all to judge the bloke on.

Who knows, he may be the next messiah Wink

Agree with both of you.
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Shearer's record in the premier is not a good one, similar to Hughton's in fact, so there would've been major doubts.

Would i be clamouring for Shearer to be replaced for a more experienced manager, probably not, i have to be honest.What i would say though, if Shearer had of stayed on, that would mean Ashley had agreed to everything Shearer wanted, was never going to happen, a strong character like Shearer being kept in charge.
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Mac's right you know.

Too much romanticism amongst our fans and not enough realism.

Hughton is a better manager than Shearer. Fact.
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richyNUFC Wrote:To be fair to Hughton, even Keegan wouldn't be able to be challenging for Europe and the title in our current situation.

That's why he gave up.

he didn't give up he got shat on.
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ToonArmy1892 Wrote:he didn't give up he got shat on.

I was on about when he said something along the lines of never being able to challenge for the top four and us being a million miles away, after the Chelsea game.

But he'd still struggle in our current situation. If he hadn't left we would never have gone down in the first place, but I mean if he came in now, we'd still struggle to survive next season.
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Yes he did give up. Because he got shat on.
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