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"Why not go and attack and get beaten"

For fucks sake.

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13th April 2019 06:49 AM
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Don't take it personally SM

Just like his hero he gets a bit overly defensive at times
13th April 2019 08:06 AM
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It’s frustrating.

Last night was the model away defensive performance. Stifling, organised and obstructive (whether we like it or not) we limited an in-form team with far superior players to very few clear cut chances. If that was Rafa’s game plan (and it most likely was) then it worked a treat.

Compare that with the Arsenal match last week. Set up in much the same way and we were turgid. Arsenal picked their way through us with consummate ease. Frequently too.

I presume that he’s picking his battles. Doesn’t make it any easier to watch though.
13th April 2019 09:32 AM
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(13th April 2019 08:06 AM)McCreery Wrote: Guests cannot see links in the messages. Please register to forum by clicking here to see links.Don't take it personally SM

Just like his hero he gets a bit overly defensive at times

Damn right when people are going on like the best manager the club has ever had doesn't know what he's doing, and still somehow manage to complain when he produces a tactical masterclass that beats a far better team than us away from home.

You and a few others don't seem to know what we have here, a bit like Ashley.
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13th April 2019 12:42 PM
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Rafa states what is needed to keep him as manager

He made a prediction based on what he has seen over the past two seasons - because he called it wrong does not make him clueless

I know exactly what we have here with Benitez - a world class manager who has facilitated Ashley's piss taking for 3 full seasons

The club is no better off than before he came - he manages to paper over the cracks for a few people though
13th April 2019 12:59 PM
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"Why not go and attack and get beaten."

You are honestly trying to defend that comment? Big Grin
13th April 2019 01:04 PM
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Rafa states what is needed to keep him as manager

When put in context with everything else he said I know exactly where he was coming from

There are plenty of examples where we have sat back and got fuck all from the game - many of them at home
13th April 2019 01:09 PM
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I think yous are mental to be honest.
13th April 2019 01:13 PM
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There are times when we should attack more in my opinion. There have been several games where we have sat back especially at home against lesser sides not the top 6 before you call me clueless. Why not go out and attack more if we get beaten then fair enough but at least we will have given it a go. We have also managed other games really well like last night’s. But to be honest there are many teams of a similar ability in the league when we have taken the game to these teams and been more attacking the results bar last week have generally been positive. Burnley, Cardiff and Huddersfield at home spring to mind. Anyway it’s just my opinion and o I am not mental well not all the time anyway.

(13th April 2019 01:04 PM)ToonArmy1892 Wrote: Guests cannot see links in the messages. Please register to forum by clicking here to see links."Why not go and attack and get beaten."

You are honestly trying to defend that comment? Big Grin
There is nothing to defend as I have explained in my previous post. Last night was a masterclass and I for one have no complaints as I said I am a very happy man. People are allowed to have differing opinions it doesn’t make them automatically wrong because they are not the same as the ones you have.
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13th April 2019 07:54 PM
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"Why not go out and attack more if we get beaten then fair enough but at least we will have given it a go."

This comment suggests you don't know much about the tactics of football, just saying.

Not that you need to, to be a fan.
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It depends on the tactics that you adhere to. Why would you not want your team to attack. I am not suggesting that you do so against every team all of the time. It depends on the circumstances and the standard of the opposition. Some games don’t allow much out and out attacking play and of course swift counter attacking which we did well last night can be very effective. Fans generally like to watch their team play attacking football. My job is a teacher my main qualification is in Physical Education so I think I probably do understand about the tactical side of the game, as much as most people anyway.
13th April 2019 09:22 PM
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We have one of the poorest squads in the league, therefore attacking in most games would be football suicide.

You are talking like it's a kickabout in the park with your mates, with nothing riding on the outcome.

Naive to say the least.

Also, being a PE teacher doesn't mean you understand football tactics. Big Grin

I dunno if you are on a wind up here or what, but you are talking absolute rubbish.
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You are entitled to your opinion I have explained my reasoning,kick about with mates I don’t know what you are rambling on about. I have a decent knowledge of many sports with my background so to say I am talking rubbish is interesting but as I say what you think doesn’t really bother me too much. If you bother to read what I have said and not get fixed into the notion that I am talking rubbish and on a wind up because I don’t agree with everything you say then I might listen to what you are saying. Anyway it’s a bit boring now so I will leave it there and move on.
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TA I think you're generally a canny lad but you're being a bit out of order here slating someone for having a different opinion to yours. And that's what it is, opinion, not fact. You perceive us as having the poorest squad in the league and the only reason we're where we are is because of Benitez. You could well be right but on the other hand we could well be where we are because of Benitez not having faith in the players he has. You seem to place the man above any criticism at all.

We all know where the problems really lie though. Mac is right in saying that a better class of manager than 'The Alan' doesn't inspire the owner to invest more. In fact it seems to be the opposite, a better manager can work wonders with lesser players. I wouldn't be surprised if Rafa's salary demands are seen at boardroom level as a factor towards limiting player salaries.
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To slate somebody who has gone to university and got a degree in order to teach PE and then offer up a YouTube video as some kind of proof of your better understanding of tactics is fuckin hilarious
14th April 2019 06:54 AM
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Rafa states what is needed to keep him as manager

I blame Sky, meesell, like...

Tactic boards every fuckin where.
14th April 2019 07:47 AM
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I remember Andy Townsend’s Tactic Truck.

A low point in the Sky Sports era.
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Rafa states what is needed to keep him as manager

Rafa does need around £70-85m to make us competitive possibly more from the sale of players such as Colback and Saivet and others we have out on loan.

I do hope we secure Rondon on a permanent deal as I have been very impressed especially with how he has played for us this season. I am not sure about Shelvey. I think we should keep him.

I did think of enticing Carroll back to Newcastle but given his injury record since he joined Liverpool I am not very keen.
14th April 2019 09:25 AM
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(13th April 2019 11:29 PM)ToonArmy1892 Wrote: Guests cannot see links in the messages. Please register to forum by clicking here to see links.

Well thanks for the insight as to how Rafa sets the team up and the tactics he uses. It may surprise you to know that I had realised what he has been doing and a lot of the time I am happy to go along with his tactics. The Leicester game was a great example of how this works well the Arsenal game not so much. I think we all know he is an astute manager who has done wonders with the limited resources given to him on the pitch. Anyway another season awaits us in the Premier league which is probably the best we can hope given the present owners lack of ambition. You see we do agree on a lot of issues.
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Yes, but TA agrees much better than yee dee.
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(14th April 2019 06:41 PM)liam1708 Wrote: Guests cannot see links in the messages. Please register to forum by clicking here to see links.Yes, but TA agrees much better than yee dee.
Really how do you work that out just wondering?
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Cos he knas about tictacs.
14th April 2019 07:52 PM
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Cunts the lot of yis. Wink
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Did Ashley not have ambition when he gave McClaren over £70mil to spend in one summer? This was when there was less money in the bank.
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Fuck off Keith.
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(14th April 2019 10:19 PM)t00nraider Wrote: Guests cannot see links in the messages. Please register to forum by clicking here to see links.Did Ashley not have ambition when he gave McClaren over £70mil to spend in one summer? This was when there was less money in the bank.


This is the crux of the issue for me...

Why give a goon 70 mil to spend when you can give Benitez 20 mil

This is why we are fucked and this is why I have been giving Rafa such a hard time on here

As far as Ashley is concerned it is bare minimum only to achieve survival - that does not equate to ambition
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(15th April 2019 04:48 AM)McCreery Wrote: Guests cannot see links in the messages. Please register to forum by clicking here to see links.
(14th April 2019 10:19 PM)t00nraider Wrote: Guests cannot see links in the messages. Please register to forum by clicking here to see links.Did Ashley not have ambition when he gave McClaren over £70mil to spend in one summer? This was when there was less money in the bank.


This is the crux of the issue for me...

Why give a goon 70 mil to spend when you can give Benitez 20 mil

This is why we are fucked and this is why I have been giving Rafa such a hard time on here

As far as Ashley is concerned it is bare minimum only to achieve survival - that does not equate to ambition

Rafa is doing a great job given his restrictions in the transfer market and with more we would be competing in the top 10 this season.
15th April 2019 07:46 AM
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who is Rafa doing a great job for ??
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I think Rafa is doing a great job despite Ashley, not for him.
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