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Hennesey did not know what Nazi salute was

Crystal Palace goalkeeper Wayne Hennessey did not know what a Nazi salute was when he was charged with making the offensive gesture, says a Football Association panel.

The charge was found not proven this month and Wales international Hennessey, 32, will face no punishment.

The regulatory commission has published its written reasons for the decision.

It said Hennessey showed a "lamentable degree of ignorance" about Adolf Hitler, fascism and the Nazi regime.

Hennessey was pictured with his right arm in the air and left hand above his mouth in a photo posted on Instagram by German team-mate Max Meyer after Palace's FA Cup win over Grimsby on 5 January.

Hennessey denied the charge and said any resemblance to the Nazi gesture was "absolutely coincidental".

The charge was found not proven after two members of the three-man panel believed the photograph had been "misinterpreted" and the other said the "only plausible explanation" was that Hennessey made the salute.

Hennessey said he "waved and shouted at the person taking the picture to get on with it" and "put my hand over my mouth to make the sound carry".

He submitted photographs to the panel of him making similar gestures during matches to attract the attention of team-mates.

The panel said Hennessey was "able to corroborate" his explanation with a series of photographs, including one that showed his right arm raised and left hand across his mouth in a "similar way" to the photo posted on Instagram.

Hennessey said "from the outset" of the hearing that he did not know what a Nazi salute was.

"Improbable as that may seem to those of us of an older generation, we do not reject that assertion as untrue," said the panel.

"In fact, when cross-examined about this Mr Hennessey displayed a very considerable - one might even say lamentable - degree of ignorance about anything to do with Hitler, Fascism and the Nazi regime.

"Regrettable though it may be that anyone should be unaware of so important a part of our own and world history, we do not feel we should therefore find he was not telling the truth about this.

"All we would say (at the risk of sounding patronising) is that Mr Hennessey would be well advised to familiarise himself with events which continue to have great significance to those who live in a free country."

The panel said other photographs from the evening showed Hennessey's arm "raised in slightly different but comparable postures" that "at its lowest" demonstrates he was trying to attract the attention of the photographer, Jordan Bussolini.

It said the FA was "entirely justified" in bringing the case but that "rather than giving a Nazi salute, we think it more likely that Mr Hennessey was, as he says, trying to shout at and to catch the attention of the waiter."
16th April 2019 08:54 PM
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he's full of scheisse
16th April 2019 09:03 PM
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I said at the time that I couldn't see how he could be found guilty from a still photograph - I'm surprised it even went to a hearing
16th April 2019 09:06 PM
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"you don't know who hitler is??..jesus fucking christ"

"who's he?"
16th April 2019 09:30 PM
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Hennesey did not know what Nazi salute was

This only serves to strengthen the belief that all footballers are thick as mince.
18th April 2019 09:04 AM
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Even if this was a nazi salute, what’s the problem? Can you no longer mock Hitler? Who exactly would this offend?
18th April 2019 12:29 PM
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(18th April 2019 12:29 PM)huntface Wrote: Guests cannot see links in the messages. Please register to forum by clicking here to see links.Even if this was a nazi salute, what’s the problem? Can you no longer mock Hitler? Who exactly would this offend?

Hitler's descendants, friends, neighbours, the nazi party, anyone called Adolf and Jim Davidson.



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Doing the Nazi salute isn’t necessarily mockery though.
18th April 2019 03:41 PM
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He might have been pointing out that Hitler was this tall and lived owa yon.
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(18th April 2019 03:41 PM)Tight_Ass_Bramble Wrote: Guests cannot see links in the messages. Please register to forum by clicking here to see links.Doing the Nazi salute isn’t necessarily mockery though.

No, but I think it probably is if it’s accompanied by a funny moustache gesture with the other hand
18th April 2019 04:49 PM
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Hmmm not sure about that.
18th April 2019 05:47 PM
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The German photographer was offended. That's why he took the photo.
19th April 2019 06:58 PM
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Hitler?

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(16th April 2019 09:30 PM)WilloTheWimp Wrote: Guests cannot see links in the messages. Please register to forum by clicking here to see links."you don't know who hitler is??..jesus fucking christ"

"who's he?"

More to do with education
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Woy said
Quote:I don't quite know what the young generation is learning about it.

This might help

In England, by law children are to be taught about the Holocaust as part of the Key Stage 3 History curriculum; in fact, the Holocaust is the only historical event whose study is compulsory on the National Curriculum. This usually occurs in Year 9 (age 13-14). While academy schools do not have to follow this syllabus, it is assumed that they will deliver Holocaust education as part of a “balanced and broadly based” curriculum. Similarly, although independent schools are not obliged to deliver the National Curriculum, many in fact do.

Although there is no formal requirement for Holocaust education in Northern Ireland, Scotland and Wales, participation in the Trust’s Outreach programme and Lessons from Auschwitz project as well as programmes sponsored by other organisations suggests that the Holocaust is widely taught nonetheless.
21st April 2019 06:51 AM
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Theres a funny cartoon in the guardian depicting him as thick as mince
23rd April 2019 06:47 PM
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