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Should Joelinton be dropped?

Luke edwards suggesting he could be left out v wet spam....i think its for the best, along with almiron, it's never easy when you're not scoring goals, the £40m price tag gets heavier blah blah,

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29th October 2019 09:06 AM
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RE: Should Joelinton be dropped?

He is being played as a target man striker, which he isn't.

That's Bruce for ya.
29th October 2019 09:16 AM
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Should Joelinton be dropped?

Get him in the 2nd team to get in the act of scoring goals..
29th October 2019 10:17 AM
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Should Joelinton be dropped?

no idea why he is getting the stick he is at the minute

It's not like he is missing sitter after sitter - he just isn't getting any service

Almiron and St Maximum have to do their part but there is no real reason why as a front 3 they shouldn't do ok

Lascelles strolled through the box totally unmarked for his goal - Joelinton would never be afforded that much space so there is no point in making comparisons (like I have read elsewhere)

Its early days for Joelinton but Almiron has to start making more of a direct contribution
29th October 2019 10:58 AM
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RE: Should Joelinton be dropped?

(29th October 2019 10:58 AM)McCreery Wrote: Guests cannot see links in the messages. Please register to forum by clicking here to see links.no idea why he is getting the stick he is at the minute

It's not like he is missing sitter after sitter - he just isn't getting any service

Almiron and St Maximum have to do their part but there is no real reason why as a front 3 they shouldn't do ok

Lascelles strolled through the box totally unmarked for his goal - Joelinton would never be afforded that much space so there is no point in making comparisons (like I have read elsewhere)

Its early days for Joelinton but Almiron has to start making more of a direct contribution

because strikers are judged purely on goals, 1 in 10 is not good enough for a £40m player...............yes he would argue that the chances are not being created, but even at hoffenheim he only averaged 2 in 10
29th October 2019 02:03 PM
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RE: Should Joelinton be dropped?

So who will play up front not that many to choose from Gayle or Muto I guess. No harm in trying something different I guess don’t think it will improve our goal scoring ability having said this.
29th October 2019 06:08 PM
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RE: Should Joelinton be dropped?

It's a tricky one,.... Gayle's not match fit, Carroll's injured (for a change), and muto's shit.
29th October 2019 06:44 PM
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RE: Should Joelinton be dropped?

(29th October 2019 02:03 PM)WilloTheWimp Wrote: Guests cannot see links in the messages. Please register to forum by clicking here to see links.
(29th October 2019 10:58 AM)McCreery Wrote: Guests cannot see links in the messages. Please register to forum by clicking here to see links.no idea why he is getting the stick he is at the minute

It's not like he is missing sitter after sitter - he just isn't getting any service

Almiron and St Maximum have to do their part but there is no real reason why as a front 3 they shouldn't do ok

Lascelles strolled through the box totally unmarked for his goal - Joelinton would never be afforded that much space so there is no point in making comparisons (like I have read elsewhere)

Its early days for Joelinton but Almiron has to start making more of a direct contribution

because strikers are judged purely on goals, 1 in 10 is not good enough for a £40m player...............yes he would argue that the chances are not being created, but even at hoffenheim he only averaged 2 in 10


Aye but I clarified why (in my opinion) it's fucking ridiculous to judge him purely on goals scored
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RE: Should Joelinton be dropped?

Yeah I mostly agreed with your post, am just saying the reason why others would criticise him,....". Young player signed for big money doesn't cut the mustard", but unfortunately that's how it is these days, the higher the fee the higher the expectancy, and if you don't stick the ball in the net you feel yourself that you're letting your team-mates down because they're doing their jobs but you're not doing yours.... However there will be no sympathy for him feeling sorry for himself, he needs to just keep working hard and stay positive.
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Should Joelinton be dropped?

Its how it has always been to be fair, and should be really.

Same goes with absolutely anything in life that costs money.

His confidence is shot, the system totally doesnt suit him and he now looks like a bit of a donkey. I have no doubt there is a player in there, but he is not a target man, he doesnt even make a proper challenge in the air half the time.

The fee we reportedly paid is ridiculous and doesnt stack up at all with normal behaviour.
30th October 2019 12:42 PM
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Its much worse these days sal...clubs havent always paid £100m for one player, even allowing for inflation 20 years ago £15m seemed extortionate, what we paid for shearer is peanuts these days, wouldnt say he's a donkey but as i said he does appear to be feeling sorry for himself, the only way he will get some confidence is working harder, even when not scoring goals he shud still be putting a shift in.
30th October 2019 02:04 PM
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RE: Should Joelinton be dropped?

(29th October 2019 10:58 AM)McCreery Wrote: Guests cannot see links in the messages. Please register to forum by clicking here to see links.no idea why he is getting the stick he is at the minute

It's not like he is missing sitter after sitter - he just isn't getting any service

Almiron and St Maximum have to do their part but there is no real reason why as a front 3 they shouldn't do ok

Lascelles strolled through the box totally unmarked for his goal - Joelinton would never be afforded that much space so there is no point in making comparisons (like I have read elsewhere)

Its early days for Joelinton but Almiron has to start making more of a direct contribution

Still think joelinton is good enough
4th January 2020 08:57 PM
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Should Joelinton be dropped?

I think he can be better than he is showing - as someone who slagged Joselu off early doors it'd be hypocritical of me to think he should stay in the team

Unfortunately having a piss poor squad and lack of any real quality to take his place its a tricky one

I wonder how much pressure Bruce is under to play the 40 million pound signing that Ashley thought (for whatever reason) was worth shelling out on


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RE: Should Joelinton be dropped?

Bruce is starting to show signs of cracking up....hehehe....cabbage leaves all over the place.
4th January 2020 09:30 PM
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RE: Should Joelinton be dropped?

The price tag is undoubtedly part of the problem in terms of dropping him, anyone can see that the guy just doesn't cut the mustard at this level (or league one level by the sounds of it) I do sympathise with his situation but this can't carry on, he's a liability and the booboys will be on his back shortly
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Should Joelinton be dropped?

The boo boys snapped today

It's gonna be a rough ride for hjm
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RE: Should Joelinton be dropped?

Some tough games approaching, long injury list, zero confidence...fucking champion.
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Should Joelinton be dropped?

No because we don't have anyone better. Sell Gayle for what we can get and bring in a decent striker and winger. I think he'll come good when all players are fit (a few due to return in the next few weeks), playing in their best positions and we get on a roll. He needs to ignore the negativity and keep the faith.
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RE: Should Joelinton be dropped?

Whatever faith/self belief Joe had in his ability has crashed and burnt, there is no cutting edge with him in the side and we would be in the bottom three if the defenders hadn't chipped in with goals, which have papered over the cracks in the short term but in this window we either buy a decent striker or we are relegated, that's how I see it.
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RE: Should Joelinton be dropped?

I totally agree last season we came good this year I can see us struggling to acquire 15 more points without investment.
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RE: Should Joelinton be dropped?

We had 2 strikers not fit at the start of the season. Gayle kept out of squad for bloody Rochdale to keep fit and eligible for a new team and to fund a new striker?

5 players including Maximin due back in next couple of weeks potentially.
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RE: Should Joelinton be dropped?

Cosmic.
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RE: Should Joelinton be dropped?

I've got 6 numbers on this week's lottery, potentially

There's more chance if that Keith

As for Joelinton. Whoever are his advisors clearly felt the cash was worth his soul

He's joined a club in perrenial disarray, after the fans manager leaves to find a journeyman boxer in charge, a team whose ambition doesn't include winning anything and they still recommended the deal to him

I've no simpathy for the lad
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Should Joelinton be dropped?

In fairness to Joelinton, nothing he's done in his career so far would make you think he's just out of form. He's just shit.

I can't understand why Ashley signed him.
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RE: Should Joelinton be dropped?

(29th October 2019 10:58 AM)McCreery Wrote: Guests cannot see links in the messages. Please register to forum by clicking here to see links.no idea why he is getting the stick he is at the minute

It's not like he is missing sitter after sitter - he just isn't getting any service

Almiron and St Maximum have to do their part but there is no real reason why as a front 3 they shouldn't do ok

Lascelles strolled through the box totally unmarked for his goal - Joelinton would never be afforded that much space so there is no point in making comparisons (like I have read elsewhere)

Its early days for Joelinton but Almiron has to start making more of a direct contribution
Joelinton has looked canny in some games mac,I'm convinced we will see a much improved player next season.
I think the bashing he gets has a lot to do with the fact that many are desperate to portray Ashley as bumbling idiot who has no idea what he's doing.
Spending 40 million of Sky's money is scant evidence of that unfortunately.
Right excuse the intrusion,I've had me say....
*genuflects while slowly walking backwards towards the relative safety of the other board.
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Should Joelinton be dropped?

Haha - good to see you over here mate

I hope you make it more regular
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He's come from the shit TOTT, has he?

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(5th January 2020 09:39 PM)ToonArmy1892 Wrote: Guests cannot see links in the messages. Please register to forum by clicking here to see links.He's come from the shit TOTT, has he?

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Have a heart man it's officially still Christmas Smile
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RE: Should Joelinton be dropped?

Nice to have another person joining the debate hopefully might stay for further input. Let’s hope his optimism for big Joe turns out to be accurate.
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No approach yet for Glenn murray
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