Finishing 17th

guff · 19th July 2021 07:45 PM

Not necessarily… *whips cat out of the bag*
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Jinkyjim · 19th July 2021 10:08 PM

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t00nraider · 23rd July 2021 10:31 AM

Season ticket deadline 5pm today, get your ticket while you can!

t00nraider · 7th August 2021 04:58 PM

Does Gayle scoring 2 against premier league team Norwich make him a Premier league team?

Accounts out finally, but £22mil loss so 17th will be a good result this season.

WilloTheWimp · 8th August 2021 03:08 PM

(7th August 2021 04:58 PM)t00nraider Wrote: Guests cannot see links in the messages. Please register to forum by clicking here to see links.Does Gayle scoring 2 against premier league team Norwich make him a Premier league team?

Accounts out finally, but £22mil loss so 17th will be a good result this season.

with joelinton clearly not a striker ( or definitely not a premier league standard striker) gayle is the only other natural goalscorer we have, but also has never really cut the mustard in the prem

t00nraider · 12th August 2021 12:32 PM

Almiron, ASM, Hayden, Willlock, Lascelles chipping in goals this season?

t00nraider · 25th August 2021 09:18 PM

Fab result tonight losing to Burnley at home in the league Cup! One less Cup to distract us from finishing 17th!

Jinkyjim · 26th August 2021 05:09 PM

(25th August 2021 09:18 PM)t00nraider Wrote: Guests cannot see links in the messages. Please register to forum by clicking here to see links.Fab result tonight losing to Burnley at home in the league Cup! One less Cup to distract us from finishing 17th!

Someone needs to tell the manager....

Steve Bruce- “I don't think we have done much wrong despite not winning. We haven't lost on the night. We have to keep believing we can turn things around.”

liam1708 · 26th August 2021 05:14 PM

It's inspirational stuff from him, we're lucky to have him. Just think we could really be in the shit and have Rafa.

guff · 26th August 2021 08:52 PM

I wonder if Mike has offered him a £100 million bonus if he wins the Champions League.

t00nraider · 27th August 2021 10:22 AM

A manager needs to try put a positive spin on things to keep morale from hitting rock bottom. He could of course go down the John Carver way and open himself up for even bigger ridicule.

We've played teams who are decent premier league teams / teams in decent form. With our best team and up to full match speed, over the course of the season we should do ok / keep ticking over until the court cases are done. Not that I'm expecting much from the outcomes.

Are there three worse teams in the league than us this season that can keep us up?

WilloTheWimp · 27th August 2021 03:33 PM

(27th August 2021 10:22 AM)t00nraider Wrote: Guests cannot see links in the messages. Please register to forum by clicking here to see links.A manager needs to try put a positive spin on things to keep morale from hitting rock bottom. He could of course go down the John Carver way and open himself up for even bigger ridicule.

We've played teams who are decent premier league teams / teams in decent form. With our best team and up to full match speed, over the course of the season we should do ok / keep ticking over until the court cases are done. Not that I'm expecting much from the outcomes.

Are there three worse teams in the league than us this season that can keep us up?

he's full of shite and blames everything and everybody else when should look no further than the man in the mirror....calls himself a life long toon fan..more bullshit, if he really loved the club as much as he says then he would fuck off because he is well aware that the fans are still being ripped off after 14 years by mike ashley yet instead of protesting against it he's actually made himself part of it, defending "mike" at all times and not allowing a bad word said about him. ritchie got it right calling him a coward............ a fat clueless lying arse-licking shite-spouting cunt of a coward.

t00nraider · 28th August 2021 10:55 AM

Everyone knows he's not a good manager, but he's the best we could get under Ashley and it doesn't matter what shite he spouts it's about where we finish at the end of the season. Fortunately we have Jones to try carry him.

We played quite well for our last few games of last season under Bruce (Jones) with a fully fit squad.

If we have a good few games with Fraser, Willock, Wilson and ASM fit and a few less dodgy refs, I expect a decent league position finish.

WilloTheWimp · 28th August 2021 11:56 AM

oh behave.....we'll finish 17th or below and you know it..............anything happens to willson whose gonna score the goals to keep us up? we've actually started a new premiership season with only ONE proven premiership striker, if we rely on joelinton, asm, almiron and gayle to suddenly become prolific goal scorers at this level then we're fucked

t00nraider · 28th August 2021 04:24 PM

We played quite well today and if that big lump of shite hadn't given away a penalty it would have been three points. Yes we are lacking fire power back up if Wilson gets injured.

You said we'd get relegated last season and we finished 12th!

We have January transfer window to buy a striker if things look tight.

~~ToonArmy1892~~ · 28th August 2021 05:15 PM

Hahaha, have that cushion face.

t00nraider · 1st September 2021 08:19 AM

A bit lost for words. Another huge gamble by Ashley. To not even get a couple of decent loan signings is another huge, unnecessary gamble. Absolute disgrace.

WilloTheWimp · 1st September 2021 12:06 PM

(1st September 2021 08:19 AM)t00nraider Wrote: Guests cannot see links in the messages. Please register to forum by clicking here to see links.A bit lost for words. Another huge gamble by Ashley. To not even get a couple of decent loan signings is another huge, unnecessary gamble. Absolute disgrace.

why should he Keith, we finished 12th ffs....thoroughly exceeded all expectations, everything's champion the way it is, why change it?

t00nraider · 1st September 2021 01:26 PM

Because it wouldn't have taken much for a couple of decent loans compared to another £20mil+ player. I suppose we still have the January transfer window if it gets desperate.

WilloTheWimp · 1st September 2021 02:16 PM

we desperately needed a striker, a leader at cb who can organise and steel up the defence, a hard working, tough tackling midfielder in the Tiote mould who can win the midfield battle and protect the defence.......

I knew we wouldnt get any of them like, mike ashleys thinking will be if we managed to finish 12th last season with this lot then we should be able to finish at least 17th this season with the same team.

t00nraider · 3rd September 2021 09:49 AM

Reports stating we did try but were a bit short on agreeing transfer prices.

t00nraider · 4th September 2021 11:57 AM

Ashley's summer 2021 transfer window explaination:

Our commitment to being run in a sustainable manner, which secures the financial viability of the club, is a longstanding one. This does not come at the expense of being ambitious, and it is built on the core principle that we will spend what we have.
The cash generated each year through matchday and non-matchday activities, plus any transfer fees received from player sales, determines how much is available to spend. This relates not only to first team playing squad expenditure, but to all other areas of the club. In simple terms, there is one pot of money and spending in one area reduces the amount available for others.
In a ‘normal’ year, our operating model would generate sufficient funds to enable us to make one or two quality first team additions, as well as investing in other areas. This approach takes time and requires careful management and long-term planning, ensuring that we spend the money we generate wisely to benefit the club.
The last two years have been challenging, with Covid-19 having a considerable impact on the club’s finances and therefore the amount of cash we have available to spend. Internally, all parties have long been aware of the budgetary parameters under which we are operating.
Ahead of the summer transfer window and having made a significant impact after arriving on loan in January 2021, Joe Willock was identified as the club’s primary target.
Once it was confirmed that the player would be available on a permanent deal, a collaborative decision was taken to pursue this option. All parties were aware as to the implications for further squad consolidation, with the collective view being that securing Joe Willock was the right priority. There was a shared understanding that further additions to the playing squad would be heavily influenced by player trading, both in terms of available funds and space in the squad.
The deal to bring Joe Willock to the club was formally completed on Friday 13th August 2021 and we are beyond delighted to have secured him.
Our preference to pay transfer fees up front, rather than spreading payments over several years, is well documented. We believe this approach to be in the club's long-term interests, giving the club far greater certainty and control over its spending in future windows and seasons.
In negotiating/securing this deal post Covid-19, we acknowledged the need to make an exception and, on this occasion, have spread the transfer fee over instalments. We did so this summer to secure a player who we know makes us stronger and who our head coach was unequivocal in his desire to sign.
Since summer 2019, the club has made nine permanent signings and taken five players on loan. Our net spend over this period is c£120m* (£160m spent on players and £40m received from sales). We have delivered on our commitment to spending what we have, and indeed because of our business this summer, have spent more to secure our primary target. To suggest otherwise is misleading and claims that money has been taken out of the club are wholly untrue.
For context, this summer, Sky Sports reported that Newcastle United's net spend was the tenth highest in the Premier League. The club retained its best players despite the obvious financial challenges.
Having finished last season in 12th place in the Premier League, and in the top six of the form table over the final nine fixtures, the club at all levels maintains a strong belief in its current squad. We have a talented and committed group of players who have shown that they are fully capable of delivering and we ask all our loyal supporters to get behind their team, because we are stronger together.
*Net spend includes assumptions around contingent transfer fees (often dependent on player appearances/league status etc) and those considered likely to fall due at some future date as well as any guaranteed deferred fees. Likewise, not all the fees due to the club have necessarily been received to date.

Put simply, £120m represents our best estimate of the spend the club has made or has committed to make because of the deals done during the five transfer windows since summer 2019 onwards - which is not the same thing as the actual cash in and out during that same period. This approach reflects the reality that trading done in any transfer window flows through into the club’s day to day cash balances over a period of time.

Will this policy enable us to finish 17th or relegate us?

Decided I'll watch the match if I can, glutten for punishment!

t00nraider · 8th October 2021 09:55 AM

Latest wally comment award goes to Gary Neville saying Ashley should lower his price. Hopefully we have more chance of finishing 17th now Ashley's gone.

t00nraider · 24th October 2021 03:14 PM

Would you take 17th this season? Is there 3 shitter teams?

WilloTheWimp · 27th October 2021 09:43 PM

(24th October 2021 03:14 PM)t00nraider Wrote: Guests cannot see links in the messages. Please register to forum by clicking here to see links.Would you take 17th this season?

What a silly fucking question, even by YOUR standards Keef.... Do bears shit in the wood? ffs,.. And before you start banging on about finishing 17th once being seen as a total lack of ambition, I don't care anymore, because once this season is done and dusted and our premiership status is secured... it's lift-off,... No more relegation dogfights, no more cowardly managers pissing us the fuck off with lame excuses as to the reason why Mike says there's no money for new players... everything they tried so hard to kill, mandy will rebuild.... So yes, finishing 17th this season will be fucking champion.

Surreymag · 28th October 2021 04:07 PM

Yes would take 17th this season last two seasons we have finished way above the standard of play we produced. I think there will be at least 3 worse teams(hopefully). Also they will not have the cash to strengthen like we have.

WilloTheWimp · 28th October 2021 10:19 PM

(28th October 2021 04:07 PM)Surreymag Wrote: Guests cannot see links in the messages. Please register to forum by clicking here to see links.Yes would take 17th this season last two seasons we have finished way above the standard of play we produced. I think there will be at least 3 worse teams(hopefully). Also they will not have the cash to strengthen like we have.

Norwich Burnley.. And it was shitty Watford... But with ranieri anything is fucking possible, he could relegate the feckers with the lowest points total of all time OR he could win them the title... I'm just confident that the new owners will find a way to keep us up somehow

~~ToonArmy1892~~ · 29th October 2021 01:20 AM

Bookies reckon Norwich, Burnley and Watford, even after their 5-2 win and being 6 points ahead of us, we're 4th favourite like.

I do wonder if we are the 3rd worst team, but if we get Dubs back in goal, keep ASM and Wilson fit, strengthen in January, we really shouldn't be.

It's all about not being too far adrift come Jan.

t00nraider · 10th November 2021 04:47 PM

Reports stating Premier League clubs will refuse to sell or loan players to Newcastle in January to get us relegated.

huntface · 10th November 2021 07:52 PM

Money talks. If they want, or more likely need, the player off the payroll they’ll do business.

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